Episode 6

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12th May 2026

S7 | Ep 6 | Embracing Failure: The Human Side of Data Leadership with Dru Patel, Data Lead at The Football Association

In Episode 6, of Season 7 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Dru Patel, Data Lead at The Football Association, where they discuss how embracing failure fuels a human-centred approach to data leadership that unlocks adoption, trust, and real organisational change, which includes;

  • How an unconventional background spanning Kenya, the Cabinet Office, and a life coaching qualification shaped a distinctly human approach to data leadership.
  • Why hard work alone has a ceiling, and how the first ten years of Dru's career proved that technical output without soft skills will only take you so far.
  • Why starting with the "why" is the most powerful tool a data leader has for driving engagement, adoption, and business buy-in.
  • How asking "why" five times gets you to the real root of what a stakeholder actually needs, and why most data teams stop at the first answer.
  • How the gap between data teams and the business is normal, and why failing to challenge it with the right questions is the real problem.
  • Why data teams need to push back on the brief rather than just building what's requested.
  • How a dashboard that stops being used isn't always a failure, and why it often signals that the business is ready to ask bigger questions of the data.
  • Why data literacy and data culture are not the same thing, and what it actually takes to move from one to the other.
  • How the six blind men and the elephant illustrates what happens when everyone is right in their own context and nobody is looking at the whole picture.
  • Why treating data like the organisation's own money, rather than a technical function, is the mindset shift that drives real literacy.
  • Why data leaders take failure far harder than anyone else in the room, and what a 1980 psychology study reveals about the stories we tell themselves.
  • How building a PPE supplier system in six days during COVID taught Dru that perfection is the enemy of progress.
  • Why owning failure openly builds more trust than silence, and how to reframe the conversation from blame to improvement.
  • How imposter syndrome shows up in data leadership, why it never fully goes away, and what mentors and trusted voices can do to help reframe it.
  • Why nerves and excitement are the same feeling, and how the most effective leaders choose which one to act on.
  • Why listening, really listening, before jumping to solutions is the soft skill most data professionals underestimate.
  • How a human-centred lens, not a technical one, is what ultimately bridges the gap between data teams and the decisions that matter.
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Driven by Data: The Podcast
Designed for Data Enthusiasts to hear from the Data & Analytics industry's thought leaders
Orbition Group is delighted to bring you this podcast series, which is designed for Data Enthusiasts, to hear from some of the most high-profile Data, Analytics and AI thought leaders from around the globe.

Each episode will detail the guests journey to the top while bringing unique insights, drawn from first-hand experience on the industry’s most trending topics.

This podcast was created as a way for our industry's most respected leadership figures from across the world to give back to the Data & Analytics community, by sharing; knowledge, experiences and ideas, to inspire, innovate and provide real-life use cases on the industries most pressing topics/challenges.

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Kyle Winterbottom

Founder of Orbition Group, a Search and Talent Solutions business that operates exclusively within the world of Data, Analytics & AI.

I am hugely passionate about enabling organisations to drive decisions and obtain value from the use of Data, Analytics & Artificial Intelligence.

As such, I believe it is imperative that as a community, we share; knowledge, ideas, real-life use cases and inspiration to collectively give back to our industry.

Given my fortunate position of speaking with hundreds, if not thousands of leadership figures within the global Data & Analytics community each year , I feel it is my duty to share the successes, failures, challenges and opportunities.

Therefore, I have positioned Orbition Group to be a facilitator of that knowledge sharing, through these podcasts, events we host and public speaking.