Episode 19

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8th Apr 2025

S5 | Ep 19 | The Power of Instinct; Why We Could Be Less Data-Driven with Simon Jury, Chief Data Officer at Kingfisher

In Episode 19, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Simon Jury, Chief Data Officer at Kingfisher, where they discuss the power of instinct and why you shouldn't always ignore it, which includes;

  • Insights from decoupling ASDA from Walmart as VP of Data.
  • Why building the right operating model for a group structure is critical.
  • Balancing centralised vs. decentralised delivery across group and brand levels.
  • The nuanced realities of a “single source of truth” across brands.
  • Aligning all data decisions with value creation from the outset.
  • When to trust your instinct over data—and why that’s okay.
  • Why the biggest challenges in D&A are ultimately people issues.
  • The disparity in investment between technology and people.
  • Why the skills that make a great data practitioner don’t always make a great data leader.
  • Why most of a Data Leader’s time should be spent focused on their team.
  • Building a high-performing D&A culture in a federated model.
  • Creating frameworks for role exploration and skill development within D&A teams.
  • The evolving role of analysts in a more data-literate future.
  • The investment needed to truly unlock value from D&A at scale.
  • Why it’s no longer acceptable for senior leaders to lack data fluency.
  • Helping business leaders articulate what they really want from AI.
  • Why living overseas sharpened the guest’s ability to translate data insights.
  • Combining the science of data with the art of experience for better outcomes.
  • Why being financially savvy is a key skill for any Data Leader.
  • Why the most successful data products are popular first, and smart second.
  • The potential of conversational interfaces to reshape how we interact with data.

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About the Podcast

Driven by Data: The Podcast
Designed for Data Enthusiasts to hear from the Data & Analytics industry's thought leaders
Orbition Group is delighted to bring you this podcast series, which is designed for Data Enthusiasts, to hear from some of the most high-profile Data, Analytics and AI thought leaders from around the globe.

Each episode will detail the guests journey to the top while bringing unique insights, drawn from first-hand experience on the industry’s most trending topics.

This podcast was created as a way for our industry's most respected leadership figures from across the world to give back to the Data & Analytics community, by sharing; knowledge, experiences and ideas, to inspire, innovate and provide real-life use cases on the industries most pressing topics/challenges.

About your host

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Kyle Winterbottom

Founder of Orbition Group, a Search and Talent Solutions business that operates exclusively within the world of Data, Analytics & AI.

I am hugely passionate about enabling organisations to drive decisions and obtain value from the use of Data, Analytics & Artificial Intelligence.

As such, I believe it is imperative that as a community, we share; knowledge, ideas, real-life use cases and inspiration to collectively give back to our industry.

Given my fortunate position of speaking with hundreds, if not thousands of leadership figures within the global Data & Analytics community each year , I feel it is my duty to share the successes, failures, challenges and opportunities.

Therefore, I have positioned Orbition Group to be a facilitator of that knowledge sharing, through these podcasts, events we host and public speaking.