Episode 17

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25th Mar 2025

S5 | Ep 17 | Behind The Curtain: The Self-Inflicted Barriers to CDO Success with Steve Green, Chief Data & Analytics Officer at Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation (SMBC)

In Episode 17, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Steve Green, Chief Data & Analytics Officer at Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation (SMBC) where they discuss the self-inflicted barriers to CDO success, which includes:

  • Transitioning from being a true technologist into a change agent.
  • Setting up a chief data office from scratch.
  • The 6 pillars of the data office.
  • Why he built an advisory team and how it delivers value daily.
  • The benefit of having a holistic view of the D&A industry from his time at the FCA.
  • The struggle to meet operational needs as well as the needs of the regulator.
  • Why data offices create problems by building point solutions.
  • Thinking 5 years ahead to balance long-term strategy with immediate needs.
  • Building to answer questions that you don’t yet exist.
  • To deliver value on strategic outcomes, you have to be in the strategy conversations.
  • How data teams are constantly delivering what businesses ask for but not what they need.
  • The lesson that most data offices are still learning, the hard way.
  • Navigating your way into the right conversations if you’re not already in them.
  • Setting the correct expectations with your business.
  • Why how you run the data office is more likely to dictate success than where it sits.
  • Why it can’t only be the CDO who’s capable of engaging with the business.
  • How the interview process should tell you what type of expectations the firm has.
  • The importance of building relationships with people before you need to engage with them.
  • Why learning how to make stuff happen beats generic data or leadership skills.  
  • The importance of effective and intentional hiring.
  • Why data offices need to be better at blowing their own trumpet.
  • Pushing the boundaries of why data offices exist.
  • Transitioning from defensive to value generating.
  • Why many data offices create barriers for themselves and end up behind the curtain.

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About the Podcast

Driven by Data: The Podcast
Designed for Data Enthusiasts to hear from the Data & Analytics industry's thought leaders
Orbition Group is delighted to bring you this podcast series, which is designed for Data Enthusiasts, to hear from some of the most high-profile Data, Analytics and AI thought leaders from around the globe.

Each episode will detail the guests journey to the top while bringing unique insights, drawn from first-hand experience on the industry’s most trending topics.

This podcast was created as a way for our industry's most respected leadership figures from across the world to give back to the Data & Analytics community, by sharing; knowledge, experiences and ideas, to inspire, innovate and provide real-life use cases on the industries most pressing topics/challenges.

About your host

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Kyle Winterbottom

Founder of Orbition Group, a Search and Talent Solutions business that operates exclusively within the world of Data, Analytics & AI.

I am hugely passionate about enabling organisations to drive decisions and obtain value from the use of Data, Analytics & Artificial Intelligence.

As such, I believe it is imperative that as a community, we share; knowledge, ideas, real-life use cases and inspiration to collectively give back to our industry.

Given my fortunate position of speaking with hundreds, if not thousands of leadership figures within the global Data & Analytics community each year , I feel it is my duty to share the successes, failures, challenges and opportunities.

Therefore, I have positioned Orbition Group to be a facilitator of that knowledge sharing, through these podcasts, events we host and public speaking.